Episode Transcript
[00:00:02] Ready to lose 40 plus pounds without giving up happy hours, weekend brunches or date nights. Then it's time to uncover the hidden link between binge eating and toxic relationships. And finally break free from both. Welcome to the Hungry for Love podcast with Jillian Scott. Y' all ready? Let's go.
[00:00:24] Hey. Hey. Welcome back and welcome to this potentially controversial topic of GLP1s and eating disorders. And I'm going to look at this, approach it from a couple different directions and a couple different avenues. But at the end of the day, I believe that GLP1 peptides are healing, they are regenerative, and when dosed properly, they can be used very effectively. Not just for weight loss, but in healing your metabolism, better regulating internal systems, even regulating hormones, it does so much. It's going to heal and regenerate. New heart tissue, tissue, new brain tissue, your liver, kidneys, your organs are going to benefit from being on a proper dose for your body.
[00:01:08] Now I do think that GLP1s can be abused by some people to where they are becoming anorexic, where they are using it as a way to not eat. And I think this is just, it's what's happened for all of time. People have found ways to get themselves to not eat. Smoking, for example, is one way that some people have decided, I don't want to eat, so I'm going to smoke instead.
[00:01:32] Apparently now there are nicotine patches where it's basically the same thing. They're using these high dose nicotine patches to try to prevent themselves from eating or to interfere with hunger signals.
[00:01:44] It's not about the glp. I think it is one avenue that some people could go and I do see some celebrities, for example, that I don't think look very healthy.
[00:01:55] I had a friend actually a couple weeks ago mention Kelly Osbourne. I am not usually a big follower of media and movie stars and things like that, but occasionally now I will see an article that I had to actually go out and seek out her profiles, her articles, pictures, things like that. She looks very different than how I remember her looking in the late 90s, early 2000s. I did not recognize her whatsoever and to me she doesn't look very healthy. And that's just my personal take. Part of it is, am I just used to seeing a different version of her, a younger version? Is it just me and my perception and not seeing maybe the change in evolution over time? I do believe that there are people who are using these peptides to get as skinny as humanly possible. And I don't think that's good, that's not healthy, it's not right. And I think that is what some people are starting to notice is that people who are seeking help for anorexia, for example, or who are getting these diagnoses are on peptides, GLP1s in particular. And so this is where we really need to be addressing the mental and emotional trauma that we have from dieting, from being overweight, from being teased for our weight. There is trauma that we need to heal that is not necessarily metabolic trauma now, but really in the mind and what's being stored in the body. We need this multi pronged approach. And what I teach and what I advocate for is that we need to better regulate hormones, we need to heal and better regulate your metabolism. We need to bring simple habit change into place and really focus on what's actually most effective and not taking away hunger that is important. The goal is not to eliminate hunger, it's not to suppress hunger, it's to feel like you are in control of it. But you should still feel hungry. When on a glp, you should still want to eat. If it is crushing your appetite, your dose is too high. And if you have severe nausea or severe vomiting, if you have some of these side effects to where it's prohibiting you and preventing you from eating, your dose is too high. But this is a patient management issue, this is a dosing issue. It's not an issue with a peptide as a whole. But there are things that we need to consider and that we need to think about.
[00:04:08] Now I offer this as one lens of Yes, I have seen celebrities in particular who have gone down this route who I believe have gotten too thin or just really, they don't look nourished or like they're thriving.
[00:04:21] They look very frail, I think is really what it comes down to. And that's what happens if you are on a glp, especially a little more long term at these high doses and you're not lifting weights, you're not prioritizing protein, you're not getting the sleep and hydration and maybe other hormonal management that you might need if not doing all the things, but especially the strength training, you will be frail, your VAT will melt away, but it will also start to eat away at your muscle if you're not protecting it properly. Often this is because of those really high doses. I've been able to protect my muscle, but I'm on a very low micro dose and I'm very intentional about it. I'm still strength training multiple times a week I'm still prioritizing protein and I'm not obsessive about it. And I think this is the flip side that I want to offer. I notice when my diet rules come up a little bit and I notice how being on a GLP helps me to feel a little bit more relaxed. For example, intermittent fasting has been a part of my life at various times in my early 30s, as I was really starting to wake up to this, I was noticing that I would exercise really hard in the morning and then I would basically starve myself until noon. It was like until lunch. I was trying to eat as little as humanly possible. And then when fasting came around and intermittent fasting came around a couple years later and it was a little more popular, I remember my ex was talking to me about it and suggesting it for other health benefits.
[00:05:45] And I just remember thinking like, I can't do that from an emotional standpoint. I was like, I can't go back there where I can't eat until noon. That just doesn't feel right. I don't like that.
[00:05:55] And so I did end up trying it for, I don't know, for a while. I didn't lose any weight. And here's the thing, I was still emotionally eating and binge eating some days. So you can still be overeating, just overeating in an eight hour window. So for me, I didn't find it to be effective for weight loss. It might have been effective from a blood sugar standpoint or insulin resistance standpoint, but with how much I was exercising chronically, inflammation was still high, there was still cortisol, I guarantee was completely dysregulated and just shot at this point.
[00:06:28] So there were still a lot of issues. So I got pregnant and I was a little bit more eat when I'm hungry, stop when I'm satisfied. But knowing that I likely need to eat a little bit earlier in the day and then after having my son, I really just followed the same habit. Eat when I'm hungry, stop when I'm satisfied. But there was still this lingering, it's better to eat later in the day than earlier.
[00:06:47] And I think from the early days of the calorie counting it was if I eat too many calories earlier in my day, I'm not going to have enough later at night and then I'm going to be hungry or I'm just going to end up overeating or going over that calorie limit. And that's bad, that's not good. That's where that all Stemmed from it was like if I can just wait late enough in the day. But that restriction is what ended up driving the binging typically. And so the heavy restriction in the morning along with the heavy exercise, especially running and weightlifting a lot of times in the same day, that was driving my binge behavior when the binging was pretty bad. And so what I found is that I can actually relax into listening to my body more.
[00:07:27] So even though I'm eating earlier in the day, I feel like I'm not getting blood sugar crashes. There's more peace and ease around. My body is already being optimized, my metabolism is already being optimized, so I don't need to fast. In fact, fasting could be detrimental while on a glp. Again, it depends on everybody's body, but this is where I am really paying attention to how am I feeling and noticing today, for example, I'm usually not super hungry for breakfast. At least in the past I wasn't. But today I got up at 5:30, I was up early, I did a three mile walk, I was feeling really good, doing some work. By nine o' clock I was like, yeah, I'm hungry, I am ready for breakfast. And that doesn't happen often, but I, I am also calm around eating and I don't have this kind of worry or fear or it's like I'm not clinging to any old outdated food rules. And I was talking with another client about this last week because she was feeling the same. It was like, oh, I don't have to hold on to these diet rules so much. I can relax around it, still fuel my body, still give my body what it needs. Listen for hunger, really listen for when I feel satisfied. And sometimes that means stopping before I maybe feel satisfied, knowing my body might need 20 minutes to digest or to finish digesting, but trusting that her body was working and it was optimizing so she didn't need these arbitrary rules. For me, as somebody who has been more orthorexic in the past as well, really just strict with food rules of this is what I can eat and this is what I have to eat and this is what I can't eat and I never can I ever. That was very strong and it was definitely driving a lot of the food noise and that mental obsession and mind drama around food. I find that being on a GLP1 really reduces that, it relaxes that.
[00:09:10] But I do think that the people who maybe are becoming dependent on them, who are abusing them, who are using them and becoming anorexic and getting too thin. I don't think that they have actually addressed any of the diet trauma or any of the mental or emotional weight that they carry from being overweight as a kid, a teen, a young adult, kids teasing them in school, doctors or other people insulting them or calling them fat. What I'm seeing in terms of the examples that I'm being presented with, it's people who have not worked on that side of things. When I look at myself and this other client, we've actually done quite a bit of the mental, emotional work around healing and changing our body image, how we see ourselves, learning to love our bodies now even as they continue to change or loving ourselves through the unknown of. I don't know exactly what's going on with my thyroid, but I'm going to look at how can I best support my body anyways, right, so that there's not this blanket effort. Screw it. I find that the use of GLP1s can actually be very effective at overcoming diet trauma. Not because we're turning off hunger or we're turning off food noise, because that's not what we want. It's like there's a sense of peace, of I don't have to be so rigid or so strict or so afraid of food or of not exercising or whatever it was that we were afraid of in the past when it came to weight loss. I don't have to be so afraid of that because I trust that this peptide is helping my body to optimize. It's helping my body to run more efficiently. It's helping all of my internal systems now to run way more efficiently.
[00:10:50] That's what I have found is there's so much more ease. And even in the past, I would say couple of years, it is something that would come up occasionally where I just have to talk myself through it. Of like, I notice it's a little bit early, but I'm hungry, so I'm going to eat. I'm not going to starve myself.
[00:11:05] And I have found with tirzepatide in particular, I do get hungry and if I wait too long to eat, I don't feel good. I definitely can feel it. I do have to be more intentional with making sure that I'm eating breakfast and at the very least a snack in the morning, especially if I'm teaching. But this is where it just depends on the person. I don't want to demonize or villainize. I think it's really easy to just look at something like the peptides and GLP1s in particular and say, that's the problem. They're creating these negative outcomes, but they're not creating shit, y'. All. Nobody is forcing these people to take them. But these people have mental, emotional, psychological damage that they have experienced. Not just diet trauma, but trauma related to being overweight. And they've got to deal with that on a mental and emotional level. If that resonates with you, this needs to be part of your journey as well. And this can be done in conjunction with peptides, in conjunction with GLPs.
[00:12:01] And there are so many opportunities for us to heal, but this is where it really is. Mind, body, emotions, soul. Like on a spiritual level, there are many different levels and aspects that we want to be healing. So they may have been healing some of the internal physical dysfunction that their body was facing, and that's what the GLP was doing. But if they haven't touched the mental emotional dysfunction, the mental, emotional trauma that they faced, they're going to struggle and they may be more susceptible to eating disorders. That is possible.
[00:12:34] But this is where you just have to decide that you're going to do things differently. And this is where for some people, you'll choose a different peptide. There are so many that are available that address inflammation or gut health, our immune system, insulin levels. There are some really incredible peptides. Really, we just need to be open. And a lot of it just comes down to education.
[00:12:54] When we know more, we can make better, more informed decisions. That's really what I see. So that is my kind of quick and dirty episode here. And this might evolve over time, but so far this is what I'm seeing. And I would say what's been interesting too, is I'm also weighing myself every week to make sure that I'm maintaining weight, to make sure that I'm not losing too much. Because I have noticed, like, I have lost five, six pounds. I'm 119 to 120. And when I started this, I was more like 125. Now, a lot of that was inflammation, water weight, just this puffiness. But I want to make sure that I'm not dropping below 118 because I know that for me, for my body, that's where I need to be. So like 118 to 122 is probably going to be more of my maintenance range, sticking right around that 120 number.
[00:13:42] So now it's been interesting to step on the scale to make sure that I'm maintaining and not losing too much, which has been interesting. I don't think I've ever been in this place. Like, I remember being a teenager and stepping on the scale and seeing it go down and being excited and being like, oh, good job, Jilly. Oh, yay, we lost another pound or we lost another kilo or like whatever it was. I remember getting on the scale and it was like the goal was to have as small a number as possible.
[00:14:10] And now I'm getting on very much to make sure that I'm maintaining muscle. But this is what we want. We want everything to be functioning better.
[00:14:17] So I think there can be some really positive benefits to this and healing our relationship with the scale is definitely gonna be a piece because there will still likely be some hormonal fluctuations and water weight fluctuations and just changes week to week in what the scale is doing. And we cannot be so tied to what is happening on any individual week. Again, we have to really be looking at what is happening across the board over three to six to nine months.
[00:14:45] If this is something that you would like to explore and you would like some help with, you've got two options.
[00:14:50] Number one, you can join me for a live upcoming workshop and I will drop the link in the description so you can sign up for that. Number two, if you know that you want to explore GLP1s and specifically for you, for your body and how to truly heal mentally, emotionally and physically, I would love to chat. Your next best step is gonna be to schedule a free consultation and this is where we'll talk more about where you're at now and where you wanna be.
[00:15:16] I'll help explain more of what my program is, what it would look like, and specifically what a path forward would look like for you. And from there you can just make the best decision for you. All right, that's all. I hope you all have a fabulous week. Here's to creating the life and body you crave.
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