Episode Transcript
[00:00:02] Speaker A: Ready to lose 40 plus pounds without giving up happy hours, weekend brunches or date nights. Then it's time to uncover the hidden link between binge eating and toxic relationships. And finally break free from both. Welcome to the Hungry for Love podcast with Jillian Scott.
[00:00:18] Speaker B: Y' all ready?
[00:00:19] Speaker A: Let's go.
[00:00:24] Speaker B: Hey. Hey. Welcome back and welcome to our first that's what she Said episode.
So today I'm going to share a couple case studies and just share more real life experiences of people who have been microdosing and actually seeing some of the benefits, not just in terms of weight, but in other areas and in other parts of their lives. And I think this is really important
[00:00:46] Speaker A: because I have this concern or this
[00:00:48] Speaker B: fear of am I alienating maybe half or a majority of the people who are following me, listening to me on my email list, in my audience, Am I alienating them by incorporating this and bringing this in? And there was a little bit of hesitation around do I want to start and, like, dive into this topic, especially when there's so much bad PR with it, to be quite honest.
And the conclusion that I came to is, yes, yes, this is worth it. This is worth talking about. This is worth explaining the difference and how I'm doing it different than most other people and companies out there, even the ones claiming to be microdosing, because they may not be, I would say most of them are not. But the way that I am doing it is different. And the biggest foundational reason is that there are regenerative healing properties, healing benefits that come from these peptides. And they don't come in a supplement, in a pill, in a powder. They don't come in any other form other than these injections. And even looking at the effectiveness of a glp, one pillar that's being developed by pharmaceutical companies, there's one in particular that I believe has been trying to. They've spent billions of dollars, 20 years of research. This one pill is still only 1%
[00:01:58] Speaker A: as effective as an injection.
[00:02:01] Speaker B: It would be far easier for me to say, take this pill, chew this gummy, drink this potion, or drink this shake. It would be way easier to be able to sell that versus selling something that requires a prescription. It requires a conversation with a doctor or a telemedicine company or something else. It's kind of scary. And I was intimidated with the shots at first, too, and not really sure I wanted to do that. I don't like needles. And so for me, there was some hesitation around it on top of am I alienating a bunch of people who follow me and listen to what I teach.
And it came down to my goal is to provide the most beneficial, the most effective solution to your problem.
This is where I believe 100% GLPs are going to be a part of that. If you've experienced any form of emotional, verbal, spiritual abuse, you have physiological damage.
[00:02:54] Speaker A: There is damage on the inside of
[00:02:56] Speaker B: your body that you can't see. And the way that I see this. So I was cleaning out the lid of my water bottle today, actually, and around the cap, like, the cap folds over, and it screws around the part that I sip out of. And so I pulled that off, and I'm using just a paper towel to
[00:03:11] Speaker A: clean around the rim.
[00:03:12] Speaker B: And I'm pulling out some black stuff, and I'm like, ew, that's really gross. And I keep cleaning, and I keep going because there's black stuff coming out, right? Like, probably some mold or something disgusting that's in there. But the lid is black, so I can't really see it. I think that I've got it all, but I keep going. I keep twisting. I keep, like, spinning my little paper towel in there, and I keep pulling
[00:03:32] Speaker A: more gunk out, and I'm just like,
[00:03:33] Speaker B: what the hell is happening? So we end up soaking it in some. I don't know what type of solution I put it in, but I put it in this, like, disinfecting solution because I'm like, whoa. It has been a hot minute. And even though I've cleaned it with a sponge and soapy water, it's hard to get into some of those creases. The yucky stuff is black, for lack of a better word. And when my lid is black, when they both match in color, it's hard to see, right? It's hard to see the yuckiness that is on the inside of this lid because they are both the same color.
Just like it's hard to see the physiological damage of emotional, verbal, spiritual abuse, of narcissistic abuse. We don't typically see it on the outside.
One of the ways that we can start to see it is with symptoms. So hair loss might be one. Autoimmune conditions could be one. But often with that, we're seeing it as, like, puffiness, bloating, weight. If you're carrying extra weight, I see that as a symptom. We don't need to solve the weight so much as we need to solve what's going on underneath it. This is why I've been really hellbent on helping people better understand emotional eating. And how do they manage their desire to seek food for pleasure and food for comfort and food to meet their emotional needs. It's the same thing with drinking. It's the same thing with so many other things. If we can solve this, the weight will come off easier, because if you're not reaching for food when you're not hungry, our bodies are naturally going to adapt. It'll release the extra weight that we're carrying. But I also see weight as being a symptom of other dysfunction, other metabolic dysfunction.
[00:05:08] Speaker A: And if there was another way, I
[00:05:10] Speaker B: would tell you if there was an effective solution that you could drink or you could pop with a vitamin or a pill or something like that, I would be all on board. But right now, what we have available to us are going to be these injections of GLP1 peptides. And that is the most effective at truly healing you from the inside out. Because we have GLP1 receptors in the brain, in the gut, on your nervous
[00:05:36] Speaker A: system, on your other organs, like the
[00:05:38] Speaker B: heart, your liver, your kidneys, all of these different parts of the body. These systems of our body have these GLP1 receptors on them. And so when they get now the agonist, they start to function better. This is why I think this is week three. I had been literally just done my third dose. I'm two weeks in, and now my period is starting to regulate. Why? Because there are GLP1 receptors on the ovaries. It's starting to get the message of, oh, now it's time to do our thing. That's what it does. It's like it's signaling for that part of the body. It's time to do the thing that you're supposed to do. Now. It's like it pushes a button that activates it. It is activating pathways in your body. It is activating the systems in your body to function better. And because it's helping to decrease the insulin resistance, decrease inflammation. We're now healing parts of the body that have been so hard to heal, so hard to touch, but we're also doing a lot of healing where we can't necessarily see the damage because it's internal. And so my analogy of the water bottle lid might be a little bit of a stretch, right? I get it. I might be reaching a little bit there, but there's damage on the inside, there's yuckiness on the inside that we have to work through. And we want to actually get the healing. And in part of this healing, we're now getting our brain and our gut to sync up better. We're now getting our hunger and satiety cues to better regulate. Because the other thing too is like with chronic dieting and diet trauma, with dysregulated nervous systems because of emotional and verbal abuse, all of these pathways, it's like the hunger and satiety signaling in our body is often off. You could be following it, but still not losing weight because your body keeps sending out extra hunger signals instead of tapping into the fat stores it has on its body. So you keep eating and consuming food because you feel hungry, but your body's just not tapping into its fat reserves. And so my goal here is to help you identify what is the real problem so that we can find the real solution. And we don't want to keep putting
[00:07:43] Speaker A: band aids on bullet wounds.
[00:07:45] Speaker B: We want to get to the heart of it. We want to get down deep and
[00:07:48] Speaker A: really understand what here needs to be addressed.
[00:07:50] Speaker B: How do we heal it? And I am just so convinced that you cannot diet and exercise your way into better health. Not when we get into our 40s and 50s, not after all of this trauma. It's just not possible.
Maybe some people can if they've never experienced trauma, if they don't have any inflammation, no exposure to toxins, GMOs, maybe there is somebody out there that. That can, through diet and exercise, really change and heal their metabolism, change and heal what's going on internally. But I don't think a lot of people can these days. I think we need some medical intervention. And let's not make that a problem. This is not a stain on your humanity. Just like we wanna release the shame of emotional eating and binge eating and turning to food as a coping mechanism or turning to alcohol as a coping mechanism. We wanna release the shame of needing a medical intervention. Because, y', all, I don't have shame in needing glasses in order to see further away.
That's what my body needs in order for my eyes to perform the way that they are supposed to. So let's reduce the shame and reduce the stigma and actually look at it from a proper way of, like, how do we use these? Not as a crutch, because we're not taking the easy way out. We still very much need lifestyle factors. We need to address our emotional eating or binge eating habits too. We still have these other aspects and pieces of the puzzle to put together, but one of them is likely gonna be GLP1s. Like it or not, that is what many of our bodies need to truly regulate to truly heal.
So let's not make that A problem.
Let's not make that a stigma.
And this is where, like I'm going to talk about it from that perspective. It's tough because there is often shame and ridicule and people just keep using it as this weight loss support.
I was actually really pissed off. I was watching a video from a doctor. She's an obesity doctor and an endocrinologist. And she was saying, if you are lean and not overweight, you're already getting the benefits of GLP1s. So you don't need GLP1s, you don't need a microdose, you don't need a main standard dose. You don't need GLP1s at all. Because if you are truly at a healthy weight with good lean muscle mass, you're already getting the benefits.
[00:10:08] Speaker A: And I would just say she's wrong.
[00:10:10] Speaker B: She's wrong because she only sees GLP1s as a fat loss or body composition solution.
But there are GLP1 receptors on every part of the body, on our organs, on our systems, y'. All. It's helping my period to function better. It's helping my eyebrows to grow back, I guarantee it's helping my thyroid to function better. It's helping with the internal problems and systems that I can't see because of such trauma, because of the emotional eating and binge eating that I did for a long time, because of the diet trauma that I faced. This is so much more than just a body composition tool.
But because natural GLP1 lasts two to four minutes, you cannot make enough to get the systems to be functioning better. We need longer lasting GLP1 agonists in the body to attach to those receptors, to tell them what to do.
Nothing that I have ever tried has ever worked as effective as this.
And this is important because not only are we seeing it being used in ways around addiction and addiction pathways, we're seeing it starting to be used and tested in terms of traumatic brain injuries with TBIs and brain damage.
There are liver transplant patients who are on the transplant waiting list. They are using GLP1s and small doses, very small doses, to help heal their current liver while they wait for that transplant.
There are true regenerative benefits of these peptides of these hormones.
And when we can see it for that, it becomes so much more than what's your body composition? Because what this doctor was saying was like, if somebody microdosed and lost weight, they actually had more body fat than they realized. They actually weren't as lean, they weren't as metabolically healthy. Maybe But y', all, I am pretty healthy. I am pretty damn lean. We're releasing some of that inflammation from the body, some of the puffiness, the water weight. This is what it's there to help do.
But I'm not using it for weight loss. And I am getting incredible benefits. There's still a little bit of weight loss, but it's not in terms of body fat. It's more so what I just mentioned. But I'm using it and I'm seeing such other benefits with my body and how it's functioning as a whole.
This is why microdosing can create weight loss in many people in many body types.
Anyways, that's my little rant here. Sorry. The whole point of this episode originally started out with. Let me share some real life stories of people who are microdosing and what they've seen, what they've experienced. And I guess I throw this in because I really debated on do I bring this into my practice. And I've had to remind myself week after week for the last couple, really couple months that, yes, this is worth it. Yes, this is an essential piece.
This is something that is going to help so many people.
So if that's not something you want, that's okay. But I see this as being a really healing, really restorative part of the puzzle. And when done the right way, when you follow a microdosing formula that I suggest, which is staying low and slow and slowly increasing up as needed and slowly coming back down so that you can cycle off of it, we're doing it in such a strategic and intentional way to where we eliminate side effects altogether, we eliminate these big crashes and regaining all this weight, that is one of the biggest pieces. You don't have to be on this forever.
For some people, they may choose to. For some people who have maybe really heavy, really strong insulin resistance, some who are diabetic, there may be some people who do want to be on this long term. I'm not here to judge again. I guarantee I'm going to need some hormone replacement therapy in the next 10 or 15 years, if not even sooner.
But y', all, when my ovaries give out and they stop producing estrogen and progesterone the way that they're supposed to and the way that they've been designed to, I'm not just gonna sit around and suffer. I'm actually gonna do something about it and I'm gonna look at what type of interventions that I can use and that I have access to, because this is truly life changing. Enough about me. I just wanted to share. There's a reason why I'm willing to do this, why I'm willing to potentially alienate people, why I'm willing to join this very convoluted conversation, this very judgy space where a lot of people have a lot of opinions and not everybody cares to listen to me and how I'm talking about things. And I've experienced that very quickly. And I'm willing to do that because this is what I believe in.
[00:14:42] Speaker A: And my whole goal is to help
[00:14:44] Speaker B: you better understand the problem so we can better find the solution.
[00:14:47] Speaker A: When we fully realize and acknowledge there
[00:14:50] Speaker B: is physiological damage due to the emotional and verbal and spiritual abuse that you have been through.
Now we can make sure that becomes part of the solution so that we can truly heal those pieces.
But deep breathing is not going to heal your metabolism. You might be like me where it's like, deep breathing doesn't always help to re regulate your nervous system.
Not all of these tools that we have access to from a somatic way are always as effective. What I've found is the regulation techniques. I've felt like they are so much more effective since starting on the glps. It's been about four weeks now. And since starting them, it's oh my gosh, going and reading for a few minutes, taking a bubble bath, box breathing, visualization, meditation. Like these pieces are actually more effective because of the GLP1s.
[00:15:37] Speaker A: When you have been through such constant
[00:15:40] Speaker B: trauma, constant abuse, it is really hard to just deep breathe your way into healing the vagus nerve. I don't think everybody can. And maybe some can. Like, I'm not here to put limitations on everybody. However, when we recognize and can reduce the stigma of needing medical intervention to heal the damage that was done to us, now there's freedom and now we
[00:16:00] Speaker A: can actually find the solutions that we want.
[00:16:03] Speaker B: Now we can get the results that we're really looking for. Okay, said I was gonna be done and then I ranted some more. Let me really be done and get onto these case studies because these are pretty freaking amazing.
So I'm gonna tell you first about
[00:16:15] Speaker A: M and this is who I was talking with in really exploring the concept of microdosing and what got me started. And we did a deeper dive. And she was very gracious in sharing her experience because she started in 2024. And so she is about two years into this. And I think it's great to have some different frames of reference. What really got her attention for the microdose was not Just the metabolic benefits, but the brain health benefits. And what we found is that this decrease in inflammation isn't just throughout the body, it's actually a decrease in neuroinflammation as well, where this is a huge aspect of being able to use GLPs to address Alzheimer's and dementia, to be able to use it proactively and as maybe a preventative measure. And then looking at emotional TBIs and the brain damage that is caused from emotional abuse and from emotional trauma is just as impactful as a physical hit, a concussion. And the brain damage that happens from blunt force trauma, right when there's actual physical force, just like there is brain damage when there is emotional force and this emotional pressure. And so because of the trauma and the way that it affects your brain, the way that it drives inflammation in the brain, this actually becomes even more of a benefit to trauma survivors.
So she lost 35 pounds over 18 months. She was on a very low, very steady dose for the bulk of that time, for well over a year. And then it was within the last four months of her weight loss journey that she lost 10 pounds. But she started on semaglutide. She was mid-40s, no other health conditions, and she had no side effects, like no negative side effects whatsoever. And so her starting dose was 2.5 units of the semaglutide, which the standard starting is 25 units, typically. And so she started on 2.5 units, so a very small amount. And that's where she stayed for a while. And it was just very small increases over that first year on it. In 2025, she switched to tirzepatide, started at 5 units. So 50 units is typically the standard starting dose. It is dosed differently. So starting at 5, 5 units and then up to 10 units, and then she went up to 15 units.
[00:18:36] Speaker B: Towards the end, she also had time
[00:18:39] Speaker A: to really implement the habits and to really solidify a lot of these habits that she was building from the lifestyle aspect.
So she's now doing 10 units every two weeks. So the units and the measurements and
[00:18:51] Speaker B: everything, that may not make a lot of sense, but if we look at
[00:18:54] Speaker A: 50 units is the standard starting dose. And now in maintenance and just cycling with it, she's at 10, 10. So she's at 20% every two weeks. She's on such a low amount. She's increased her weight training and then increased her protein intake. She has enough of an appetite, enough of a desire for the food, stable hunger, stable desire. And that's really what we want, is we Want it to feel stable, we want to feel in control of it and this is where we get to play. Because everybody's body is different, everybody has different goals, different desires.
One of the things she noticed was that within the first six hours of her dose, there was less anxiety. Her body felt calm, her brain felt calm, it was like an immediate effect.
And within the first two weeks, her body felt less swollen, less inflamed. She started sleeping better, had such a better quality of sleep and sleeping throughout the night.
Far less brain fog, so much more mental clarity.
[00:19:55] Speaker B: And because of the mental clarity, it
[00:19:56] Speaker A: was like there was mental energy that went with the increase in physical energy.
She's recently started on low dose HRT
[00:20:04] Speaker B: within the last year.
[00:20:06] Speaker A: Now her hormonal doses with HRT can
[00:20:09] Speaker B: actually be a lot lower.
[00:20:10] Speaker A: Her body now is creating a better set point and there may still be though other interventions. Depending on how old you are and where your body is at, you may still need some other support. Just like I mentioned in the podcast last week, with my experience of I may still want some HRT support, but it's going to be much more manageable because I'm getting my system to a better solid baseline. She shared that one of her friends recently started and she's doing a microdose and it's really helping with inflammation, anxiety, digestion. And her friend was noticing these results within the first one to two weeks. Like things are just, they're very noticeable but not in an extreme way. And I think this is what it's all about is like when we start lowering, even going up to the standard starting dose. For example, if you're going up to that over the course of 612 months now, your body is much more adjusted and we're giving it time to actually heal. This is the important piece of how it's being misused is like just this weight loss tool or this weight loss drug versus this is a healing modality and it is one of many tools that we want to have in our toolbox.
So that I thought was just a really great example of how this can be used a little bit more long term. Her thought on it is she's gonna cycle on and off.
[00:21:34] Speaker B: But she was like, I may never
[00:21:35] Speaker A: take this out of my routine for how I keep my body and my brain functioning well. That's a decision that everybody gets to make whether they wanna stay on it or they wanna come off. But because of how she has done it at such a low and steady progressive weight, going up and then coming back down, she would be able to cycle off of it with really great success and not see any negative side effects if she wanted to come off of it completely.
So now let's move on to a
[00:22:02] Speaker B: couple clients, because I do have some
[00:22:04] Speaker A: clients who are curious about it. But it also feels like a lot to take on.
[00:22:09] Speaker B: And I think that's kind of part
[00:22:11] Speaker A: of why I'm sharing this podcast and sharing these case studies is because I want to showcase other people, because sometimes it's more peace of mind that we're looking for. We're a little unsure, a little skeptical. It's like, give me some proof, right? Show me some evidence. While some clients are interested and may explore this more in the summer or later on this year, I have had a couple clients who were ready to say, yes, let's give it a try. So we'll start with client one. And really what got her attention, I would say there was this core idea around her metabolism, and she really felt like her metabolism is broken. And my perspective now is that her metabolism is just traumatized. Right. And so I'm going to actually do a webinar about this and do a workshop around this idea of your metabolism is not broken, but it's likely traumatized. And so we want to address things a little differently. But she lost ten pounds in the first, let's say three and a half to four months of us working together. And while six of it stayed off completely, her weight kept bouncing. And it was like it just kept playing with those same £4 for the following four months. It would come down and then it would go back up, and then it would come down and we go back up, and it just felt very frustrating. And so because we were dialing in a lot of the habits, emotional eating, really working on, like, the diet trauma, we were dialing in all of these other pieces. And so the fact that she was doing a lot of things really well and she still wasn't seeing the results.
And so this tells me that there's likely some insulin resistance, even if it's low grade, even if it's not showing up on the labs. So what they would call subclinical, and it would be beneficial to address that. Now let's look at that. Now, this was also really great because we had been working together for about 8, maybe 9 ish months to where she's already dialing in some habits. But she also had enough time for her where she was like, okay, my body just feels like it is a fight to release this weight. Something is not safe internally. I'm Ready to explore this and to see what this could be. And I know for her, one of the concerns was, do I have to be on this long term or for the rest of my life? And my answer was, no, but we've got to see what her body does and how it responds. And she also just coached herself and got to the place where she was like, maybe my body does need something more long term. If my body needed insulin, if something was wrong in my body or I wasn't producing enough on my own and I just needed that extra medical support, but I needed it for life.
[00:24:43] Speaker B: Maybe that's it.
[00:24:44] Speaker A: And not making that a problem, not making that a stigma, Being really aware of where maybe a little bit of pride was coming in, of, like, feeling proud that she didn't need to be on something. And not to say that we want to just throw medications at problems, because
[00:25:00] Speaker B: y' all know that's not what I teach.
[00:25:02] Speaker A: But noticing where we can get in our own way and stop ourselves from being able to pursue solutions, that could be really helpful. And so to be able to take a step forward with the uncertainty of, I may need this for life, I may not, and still being willing of, but at least I'm going to find out. And one of the other concerns was, like, what if I try this and it doesn't work now? What. What if I run out of options? And I was like, here's the thing about that.
The more that you try that doesn't work, the closer you get to finding what will. Number one, there are various peptides, so if one doesn't work, there's other ones to try. And if you get through all of those and none of those seem to work or none of those, to lose the last 30 pounds, now we know there's something else, and it's going to point you in the right direction. So I get that it's frustrating and it's discouraging, but also being able to look at it from that lens of every time we hit a closed door, every time we do something and it doesn't create the results that we want. Number one, we can usually find what is working within that, but we can also see, okay, here's where I need to take another step, or here's where I need to pivot and shift my focus, shift my attention. And then within that time, because we were working together for about eight months, we had a good amount of time to work through big emotions like anger. And for her to be able to better process emotions, to be able to identify the nuance between different emotions. There was really great emotional work that we were doing. She was able to start to notice hunger and feeling satisfied. What does that actually feel like in her body?
Noticing more diet trauma with the types of food, amount of food, preemptive eating. Because this fear of being hungry, as well as recognizing disordered eating habits in the past and not wanting to go back there, I suggested starting with the semaglutide. So it's the first generation GLP1, so just the GLP. And I suggested that because that has been shown to address the dopamine receptors and food noise better than Tirzepatide, which is the GLP and gip. So it's a dual agonist. And so for her, the food noise decreased considerably.
We don't want to turn it off, but we really want to take the temperature down. And that was one of the things that she said was the food noise. That first weekend was just down so much. There was noticeable decrease in inflammation and puffiness in the first week. And then into the second, she started at five units, which was 20% of the standard starting dose. So again, very low. And the first weekend she said she felt more side effects in terms of it was a little bit of a chore to eat. There was some slight nausea, but it got better throughout the week. And so we kept her there for her second week just to see how she was feeling, staying at that very low amount. And so the third week she went up to seven units, which is about 28% of the standard starting dose. And then she'll likely go up to 10 units with her fourth dose.
So again, a very slow progression. What I've also found with the semaglutide is it's very concentrated. You really don't need a lot. And so that's also why we're playing with such small increments, such small doses. But we're really looking for this Goldilocks of not too little, not too much, trying to find that sweet spot. She's been losing about one pound per week. So four pounds down initially, then two up, then we'll likely lose another pound. And so we talked about protein being important and the importance of making sure she's got enough protein and enough fiber.
However, we also wanna make sure that we're not overeating. And that's a big thing here, is trying to follow these arbitrary standards around how many grams of protein for how
[00:28:51] Speaker B: much body weight you have.
[00:28:53] Speaker A: That's not always helpful and can sometimes
[00:28:55] Speaker B: activate some diet trauma. And so for some people, that Might
[00:28:58] Speaker A: be helpful to follow a general rule of thumb or a suggestion, a guide, something like that.
But for some, that might actually do more harm than good. And so if it's just I want to make sure I have protein and vegetables at every meal, that might just feel a little bit easier, right from that mental, emotional side of things, she's already starting to feel better with that of not having to force herself to eat too. And so this is where it's like we play with not just the dose, but we play with our habits and
[00:29:30] Speaker B: what's coming in as well.
[00:29:32] Speaker A: She's feeling really good, she's noticed better mental clarity and then, yeah, like the food noise has been huge.
She's also very sensitive to alcohol, so she doesn't normally drink, but notices that her body does respond a little differently. So even one drink will create a little bit of nausea. And so that was one aspect we were talking about, which was just like learning what tends to trigger things, because alcohol, greasy and fried foods and sugar or sweets is going to create some of those side effects. And that is why a lot of people, especially on the standard doses, but even when microdosing might feel some negative reactions because they are not bringing in some of these lifestyle changes and changing the food.
So this is why we don't just want to rely on a single compound to create results. We have to have those lifestyle pieces because that's what's also going to allow you to come off of it, to cycle off and not need it. We want to see that progression of the lifestyle habits, just like we want to see a progression and adjustments to doses, supplements, sleep, all of those aspects. We did also start playing with the timing of some of her supplements as well. So I found doing some adrenal support in the evening with my magnesium has really helped with my sleep. So side note, I did my dose last night and where I normally would not be sleeping, I was asleep at 9:30 and I woke up at 5
[00:30:57] Speaker B: and I felt great.
[00:30:58] Speaker A: I felt really good. And then I think I kind of slept again until 6.
[00:31:01] Speaker B: I kind of fell back to sleep
[00:31:02] Speaker A: and then I got up at 6. So I'm finding too that some of the side effects that I was noticing, my body's feeling more adjusted, better regulated. And the supplementation that I've been playing with as well has also really helped. And this is where electrolytes also come into play. So making sure electrolytes the day before, the day of, the day after especially, but I really suggest it every day, we're playing with a lot of those pieces as well here.
[00:31:28] Speaker B: Okay, so it's client one, Client two,
[00:31:31] Speaker A: what got her attention is very similar with client one. She lost five to six pounds over seven months.
[00:31:38] Speaker B: And the weight just felt like it
[00:31:39] Speaker A: was not coming off consistently.
She was not binging anymore. There was very little overeating. She was making good food choices, she was cutting back on alcohol, and she could not create the results that she wanted. This is again where I see likely some insulin resistance. And so this is why the GLPs are really very important. And this is a little bit different than the retatrutide, which is right now they're doing clinical trials. It's just research grade, so it's not available by most compound pharmacies.
But that one does not affect insulin levels, which I think actually may not be as beneficial because I think what many people do have is low grade or subclinical insulin resistance. And so while the weight may come off, I don't know that we're going to see as much of the healing benefits of that. So that is still to be explored. I'm not sure what their trials are going to say. We'll see over the next year or two what that looks like comparatively. But I do think with client two, that she was also dealing with some similar issues, potentially some autoimmune inflammation and puffiness, insulin resistance because of trauma and abuse. She started on the tirzepatide and we went with that because it does address inflammation, it does address a little bit of the food noise. But people have also said that they see lesser side effects with that. The dosing is different there. She started at 10 units, which is 20% of the standard starting dose, then went up to 15 units and then the next one will be either 17 or 20. This is where we don't need a whole lot more to feel a difference.
She has seen much more mental clarity, less fatigue, decreased inflammation and bloating.
After her second dose, she felt really motivated, physical and mental energy, decreased food noise so that it feels more manageable. And she's been losing about half a pound per week, which is right in line with the long term sustainability for weight loss. She had no side effects the first week and then the second week. The last day before her third dose, there was a little bit of gastric issues where as we were talking, it was like, okay, I think the dose has maybe worn off a little bit or it might be a little bit low in her system. And so we're seeing that she's having a really good experience with this and Feeling better, feeling more like herself.
This has been a really great experience for her and being able to support her body and do it in a really healthy, sustainable way. I have a third client, and he started on Tirzepatide a little over a month ago, about six weeks ago. And he did this through his doctor. And so we were talking about this more towards the end of his first month because we are working more on relationship topics. He started with the standard starting dose of the Tirzepatide. Then in month two, they doubled it, and he was in bed for like a week. He said he felt terrible that week, so they backed off. They went to 3 milligrams instead of the 2.5, and he still felt yucky, but it was doable. He could still function. Now he has noticed no weight loss.
Now, for some people, they don't see weight loss in the first one to two months.
However, because of the strong reaction that he had to the increase, that tells me that Tirzepatide is likely not the right fit for him. I was talking with the director of a telehealth company, and she was saying she had tried Tirzepatite as well. I don't know how long, if she did three months. But she switched and she went to the semaglutide and she was like, I feel so much better on that. That actually feels like it's helping my body. And so some people don't respond as well to that dual agonist. Some people do respond better on a different peptide. I think we can all get a little hung up and a little worried. I want to make sure that the first thing that I try is the thing that works.
And really, we have to give ourselves permission to try different things at different times. Because he's doing this through his doctor. I was like, this is something just to explore.
[00:35:30] Speaker B: Let's talk at the end of month
[00:35:31] Speaker A: two, because he's also looking to lose about £40.
[00:35:34] Speaker B: And so I was like, all right,
[00:35:35] Speaker A: I think we need to consider another option. And so I throw this in here, too, because I want to share everything. And sometimes we do just have to experiment and see. Okay, I don't know if this is exactly going to be the thing, but based on what people are telling me in terms of the symptoms that they're having now, the goals that they have and what they want to achieve, I usually can make a pretty good recommendation. And I don't say this as an experiment of let's throw spaghetti at the wall and see what sticks. It is a very structured scientific experiment. It is very intentional, but there do have to be a little adjustments. And so he and I did talk about some lifestyle aspects too, and that's something we'll continue to refine this month of making sure that those health pieces are really in line and looking at what he can do on his end to support the peptide and help his body to support it better. For the most part, I have heard people switching from semaglutide to the tirzepatide. In trials, they found that the tirzepatide has been shown to decrease inflammation and create better insulin sensitivity. But again, everybody's body is different. I want to leave it there. I have a couple other case studies that I'll share later. And if you'd like to have a conversation to see if microdosing a GLP one could be the right next step for you, I would love to chat. Because again, this isn't just about the peptide, but we also want to make sure that we're bringing in those lifestyle habits, which is what I am still coaching people on. To schedule that free consultation, you can visit bodyucrave.com forward/schedule.
[00:37:03] Speaker B: And let's talk more about what your
[00:37:04] Speaker A: goals are, what the challenge has been. Because if you feel like you have been doing all the right things, your habits have been pretty good, you're eating fairly clean, you're not perfect, but you're getting a lot of pieces, right, but the scale keeps going up or it's really just not budging. One of the biggest things is going to be some low grade inflammation and insulin resistance. And if we can clean that up, we've got to fix the bridge so that your body starts to do what it's designed to do. We create that internal physical safety within your metabolism. And when we can do that now, you're going to create such better results.
I don't think food and movement are going to fix everybody.
Some people maybe that might be enough. But if you're getting in movement and you're eating better and you're following hunger and satiety and you're working to mitigate stress, right, you're trying to sleep more. If you're actively working towards those things and the scale is just not moving, or it's maybe one pound per month, then let's chat. I guarantee there's likely more at play than you realize. And these GLP1s and the healing benefits are so profound.
[00:38:06] Speaker B: All right, y' all have a fabulous week.
[00:38:09] Speaker A: Here's to creating the life and body you crave.
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